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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #945 on: May 30, 2018, 01:58:35 pm »
I'm confused about a little something.

Somewhere between FBA 0.2.97.40 and .42, support for Samurai Shodown II and IV "Special" hacks has been added. (If memory serves, it was actually forgotten in .40 despite being mentioned in the release notes, but whatever). Now, looking at .43, I can't see these hacks anymore among the samsho2 or samsho4 clones.

Were they removed on purpose or not? What's the story? Thanks.

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #946 on: May 30, 2018, 10:01:47 pm »
We had to remove all hacks by GSC2007 because this guy is absolutely mental, and only wants his hacks to run on his "special" version of mame - which has no source code, only exe's.  ... which in itself is very suspicious.   Anyways, we had to remove them to avoid an influx of insults and accusations from this guy.  Sorry about that.

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #947 on: May 31, 2018, 01:50:04 am »
I'm confused about a little something.

Somewhere between FBA 0.2.97.40 and .42, support for Samurai Shodown II and IV "Special" hacks has been added. (If memory serves, it was actually forgotten in .40 despite being mentioned in the release notes, but whatever). Now, looking at .43, I can't see these hacks anymore among the samsho2 or samsho4 clones.

Were they removed on purpose or not? What's the story? Thanks.
If you find interesting hacks in hbmame (obviously not the ones by GSC2007), i can look into porting them to fba as i did for kof2k2omg :).

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #948 on: May 31, 2018, 03:34:08 am »
Ah, I remember reading something about that. I didn't realize those hacks were part of it (I don't even know what they add to the original games, I just wanted to check them out). This whole thing is ridiculous. The only reason this guy could create his modified emulator and ROMs is thanks to the efforts of all the people who freely and nearly unconditionally shared their work with everyone. He wants to benefit from it while imposing his petty conditions (does that even respect MAME's licensing conditions?). It's selfish, immature and shortsighted. He's wilfully limiting the reach of his work, and ensuring his pet projects won't outlive him.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. Thanks for the offer to add cool hacks, barbudreadmon. If I ever stumble on any, I'll let you know.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 03:53:13 am by Stifu »

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #949 on: May 31, 2018, 04:56:47 am »
Ah, I remember reading something about that. I didn't realize those hacks were part of it (I don't even know what they add to the original games, I just wanted to check them out). This whole thing is ridiculous. The only reason this guy could create his modified emulator and ROMs is thanks to the efforts of all the people who freely and nearly unconditionally shared their work with everyone. He wants to benefit from it while imposing his petty conditions (does that even respect MAME's licensing conditions?). It's selfish, immature and shortsighted. He's wilfully limiting the reach of his work, and ensuring his pet projects won't outlive him.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. Thanks for the offer to add cool hacks, barbudreadmon. If I ever stumble on any, I'll let you know.

I still think we should put them back. His "work" is based on SNK's IP and we don't remove their stuff.

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #950 on: May 31, 2018, 07:31:54 am »
Yeah, don't let some moron dictate your project. HBMAME has all the GSC2007 stuff (that I know of) and nobody has said a word.


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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #951 on: May 31, 2018, 10:52:17 am »
They're back :)

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #952 on: May 31, 2018, 05:57:50 pm »
They're back :)

My life is truely now complete :D

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #953 on: June 04, 2018, 02:05:42 am »
Thanks for that, dink. I hope they're worth it! I still haven't had a chance to try them.

Anyway... I found something that looks like a bug, but I don't know whether it's a game bug or emulation bug.
It's in the intro of Crude Buster, in the scene where you see the big punk shake hand with the government official. It looks buggy (wrong colors, apparent tiles) at first, then it looks fine after a second. The bug can be seen here: https://youtu.be/8-49fSaAnQc?t=40s

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #954 on: June 04, 2018, 07:36:46 am »
Stifu,
Regarding Crude Buster:
The pcb does the exact same thing - I wonder if they were going for a lights off / lights on effect?

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #955 on: June 04, 2018, 08:58:54 am »
I see, thanks for clearing that up. I don't think it's intentional. Weird colors aside, the apparent tile squares definitely look buggy. Also note the Mega Drive / Genesis version doesn't have those issues.

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #956 on: June 04, 2018, 09:57:14 am »
You're welcome.  Yes, it does look odd w/ the missing tile(s) and weird colors.   Maybe the original testers of the game didn't notice it because they didn't have the modern features we have (pause/ffwd etc).  Who knows :)  I guess we'll never know without asking the original designers of the game.

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I see, thanks for clearing that up. I don't think it's intentional. Weird colors aside, the apparent tile squares definitely look buggy. Also note the Mega Drive / Genesis version doesn't have those issues.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2018, 09:59:38 am by dink »

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #957 on: June 09, 2018, 04:26:28 am »
About Crude Buster again, I assume the buggy tiles around the second punk in the ending scene are also a game bug rather than an emulation bug?
https://youtu.be/E6sY_sMl2aQ?t=32m11s
This bug is even in "Data East Arcade Classics" for the the Wii, but sometimes such compilations have emulation bugs, so better safe than sorry...

Also noticed I have bleeding colors on the sides of the screen when I'm in full screen mode with FBA (see screenshot). When sprites are located on the rightmost part of the screen, I get bleeding pixels on the left side, and vice versa. I guess that's just some imperfect video setting or something, rather than an actual FBA bug.

I can provide save states for both of these things, if needed.

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #958 on: June 09, 2018, 07:17:52 am »
Stifu, thanks, please post the states :)

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Re: FB Alpha 0.2.97.43 Bug Reports
« Reply #959 on: June 09, 2018, 08:16:46 am »
Here you go. Thanks for having a look.
  • cbuster_bullboss: color bleeding in full screen mode. It actually happens all the time, not just here, but that particular scene makes the problem more obvious due to the colors used. Go in full screen mode, and move your character either to the far left or far right side.
  • cbuster_ending: second punk buggy tile issue (took the save just a few seconds before the bug occurs).
« Last Edit: June 09, 2018, 08:19:28 am by Stifu »