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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by kev on April 24, 2019, 11:20:28 am »
Funny that you mention that, I was researching Greek letters for a possible FBA fork name. We'll see.

I'd say at this point don't just make it a possible fork. FBFork. Finalburn Cutlery? I can't imagine anyone would put that on a product lol.
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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by 7zxkv on April 24, 2019, 11:15:41 am »
FBZ, nice idea  :biggrin:
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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by Haze on April 24, 2019, 11:10:13 am »
Funny that you mention that, I was researching Greek letters for a possible FBA fork name. We'll see.

Since it was presumably named after the Steet Fighter Alpha games, might make sense to use something based on the Japanese name 'Zero' rather than another greek letter.
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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by iq_132 on April 24, 2019, 10:55:05 am »
So we will have to expect a FBG(amma) if barry does not speak ?
Funny that you mention that, I was researching Greek letters for a possible FBA fork name. We'll see.
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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by 7zxkv on April 24, 2019, 10:45:33 am »
So we will have to expect a FBG(amma) if barry does not speak ?
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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by kev on April 24, 2019, 10:15:50 am »
Problem is he controls the 'official' site and twitter account right now afaik.

I know I am being naive based on the lack of response from kochmedia and other parties, but I am still trying to make those claims bogus. Until the weird looking thing is released with FBA on it, nothing has happened at this point beyond a very bad PR fuck-up by Barry.
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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by Haze on April 24, 2019, 08:38:38 am »
Or just cut out the individual that acted on his own, don't depend on him anymore as he made it clear he didn't care about the community and having the minimum of honest discussion.
That's what I would do, move the github, website where he wouldn't have admin right and not care about stuff like name or anything else, continue just the same without him.

...but I'm not a dev here and probably shouldn't say that, sorry if that's unwelcome.

Problem is he controls the 'official' site and twitter account right now afaik.

Claims have been made in the name of FBA.  Trying to continue with the same name would be messy as you could potentially end up with 2 pieces of software being released with the same name, different content, different license claims etc.

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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by Tatsuya79 on April 24, 2019, 08:30:15 am »
Or just cut out the individual that acted on his own, don't depend on him anymore as he made it clear he didn't care about the community and having the minimum of honest discussion.
That's what I would do, move the github, website where he wouldn't have admin right and not care about stuff like name or anything else, continue just the same without him.

...but I'm not a dev here and probably shouldn't say that, sorry if that's unwelcome.
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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by Haze on April 24, 2019, 08:02:53 am »
Barry is the only one responsible of this mess, afaik no other dev agreed, so blaming the issue on the project & team as a whole seems wrong. Also, considering that he might have severed the link between fbalpha.com and neo-source.com the day of the announcement (am i the only one who noticed the disappearance of the forum link since then ?), imho he decided to follow his own path and doesn't care about the other devs.

Then you probably need to take the project forward with a new name, new domain, new social media account and and new person in charge of releases? or take control of the domain etc. (but I guess since FBA isn't trademarked AFAIK, there's no grounds for doing that)

After that, make an official statement regarding this, and why the FBA name etc. has been abandoned, and how you plan on proceeding.  Clarify the license, rebuild confidence, maybe look to move forward with a view to re-licensing the proper way (as MAME did) or stick firmly with what you have if you feel FBA is a good home for people who want to code things that can't be used in a commercial setting. 

It sounds like the interest in relicensing properly is there, but it would be a complex process and you're bound to have some developers that either say no, or you can't contact (or can't fully trace the origins code back to, eg. a lot of submissions from China and the like) so rewriting some bits from scratch is inevitable.  For MAME derived code it might be easier to just scrap what you have and report from current once you've relicensed.

The problem is of course, people know the FBA name, and some, oblivious to all of this, will continue to search out FBA rather than whatever you decide on.

Hiding / removing the forum link, which is basically the link to the actual development community behind the project, is very suspicious behaviour tho, yes.


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FBA Discussion / Re: Capcom Home Arcade stick using FB Alpha Emulation
« Last post by barbudreadmon on April 24, 2019, 06:36:29 am »
Make no mistake tho, a member of your team created this mess, and must accept as much responsibility as anybody else.  FBA has sent out a clear message to all potential devs that the team simply don't care about the license under which they're been given code (or have taken code and used) and will happily just ignore it if somebody comes calling.

Barry is the only one responsible of this mess, afaik no other dev agreed, so blaming the issue on the project & team as a whole seems wrong. Also, considering that he might have severed the link between fbalpha.com and neo-source.com the day of the announcement (am i the only one who noticed the disappearance of the forum link since then ?), imho he decided to follow his own path and doesn't care about the other devs.
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