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Title: a new name!
Post by: dink on May 18, 2019, 07:21:45 PM
FinalBurn Neo
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: DarkShadowMD on May 18, 2019, 10:58:38 PM
Final Burn Nova?

Just toying XD
I can participate on this right? I'f not I apologize beforehand :V
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on May 19, 2019, 12:11:52 AM
It's already been decided :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Robert on May 19, 2019, 12:23:08 AM
Or FBN for short. Looking forward to its first official release!  :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on May 19, 2019, 01:07:14 AM
FinalBurn Neo

Nice choice... it sounds good, in both extended version (FinalBurn Neo) and acronym version (FBN) ! :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: DarkShadowMD on May 19, 2019, 02:52:48 AM
This also means the main site for the emulator will change as well? Because it still shows as FB Alpha (and points to the old repository)... In any case, congrats for the new name! New name, new future for the emu!
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Kev on May 19, 2019, 05:04:29 AM
This also means the main site for the emulator will change as well? Because it still shows as FB Alpha (and points to the old repository)... In any case, congrats for the new name! New name, new future for the emu!


The old site is owned by Barry, and we now have no control or influence over that site.  We have new domains for the new name but they just point here.

Also, the renaming of things will surely take some time, but it will happen. A more paranoid person would be worried that if Koch Media are using a new emulator written by Barry that has the name "FB Alpha", that is not what we all know as FB Alpha then there is a good chance at some point someone at that end is going to try and claim ownership on that name. A new name allows the project to move on away from the all f***wittery, which is what we all want :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Stifu on May 19, 2019, 06:58:02 AM
Nice choice... it sounds good, in both extended version (FinalBurn Neo) and acronym version (FBN) ! :)

A bit confusingly, "FBA" was renamed to "FBNeo" in the sources (https://github.com/dinkc64/FBNeo/pull/19/commits/388cc91c3d1fc8e041dc081ad67ddf84dab03e64#diff-26abb56aafdb27ac67a1fb6dca7d8320). FBA was written in 3 ways (FinalBurn Alpha, FB Alpha and FBA).
Does that mean FinalBurn Neo in only meant to be written in 2 ways but not 3 (FinalBurn Neo, FB Neo but not FBN), or am I reading too much into it?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Kev on May 19, 2019, 07:08:11 AM
A bit confusingly, "FBA" was renamed to "FBNeo" in the sources (https://github.com/dinkc64/FBNeo/pull/19/commits/388cc91c3d1fc8e041dc081ad67ddf84dab03e64#diff-26abb56aafdb27ac67a1fb6dca7d8320). FBA was written in 3 ways (FinalBurn Alpha, FB Alpha and FBA).
Does that mean FinalBurn Neo in only meant to be written in 2 ways but not 3 (FinalBurn Neo, FB Neo but not FBN), or am I reading too much into it?

The first renaming pass was powered by several pints of Peroni so I wouldn't take any of it as gospel...

I believe all 3 are valid :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Tatsuya79 on May 19, 2019, 07:53:22 AM
Final Borneo.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on May 19, 2019, 09:00:05 AM
Or FBN for short. Looking forward to its first official release!  :)

Among other things, I suppose that now the official releases will have a "better frequency" ! :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Arcadez on May 19, 2019, 09:29:25 AM
Among other things, I suppose that now the official releases will have a "better frequency" ! :)

 :wink:
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: DarkShadowMD on May 19, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
In any case, I'm just happy the emulator continues, new name or not, this emu is my favorite (and it would be more if one day it emulates Konami GX games, but that's just me). I know about it because a friend that said it used to work on it recommended me for a lot of arcade games, and I say it: It's awesome!

All my support for FB Neo!

Is it just you by now working on the emu dink? Or you are having more devs involved?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: FerchogtX on May 19, 2019, 05:11:40 PM
Wow... long time not logging in, and I find this XD

First of all, I love the name, it moves to the future, sounds so dynamic and modern! I love it!

Second... I have to say I am pretty sorry for being so absent from a long time. RL things just made me even unable to at least say I wouldn't be able to help even a little bit with the emulator. Man, at this point, I even forgot anything about coding XD.

Still, I'm pretty excited to see FB moves to a new shiny future. Maybe I can't help with coding as I did before, but at least I will be still here logging in from time to time and helping with the forums as much as I can. Let's hope nothing else happens again to drag me away like last time XD.

Long Live FB Neo!

See ya!
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on May 19, 2019, 07:18:27 PM
All my support for FB Neo!

Is it just you by now working on the emu dink? Or you are having more devs involved?


iq_132, kev and me sorta keep the project going, but really - anybody can contribute to the project! :)

best regards,
- dink
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: 7zxkv on May 21, 2019, 10:49:48 AM
except that in 10 years there will be nothing "neo" ^_^

why not !
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: KaaMoS on May 21, 2019, 12:58:15 PM
Just a question....
Do you think that FB logo used in splash, main and loading screens need to be changed too?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: iq_132 on May 21, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
Wow... long time not logging in, and I find this XD

First of all, I love the name, it moves to the future, sounds so dynamic and modern! I love it!

Second... I have to say I am pretty sorry for being so absent from a long time. RL things just made me even unable to at least say I wouldn't be able to help even a little bit with the emulator. Man, at this point, I even forgot anything about coding XD.

Still, I'm pretty excited to see FB moves to a new shiny future. Maybe I can't help with coding as I did before, but at least I will be still here logging in from time to time and helping with the forums as much as I can. Let's hope nothing else happens again to drag me away like last time XD.

Long Live FB Neo!

See ya!
Holy cow! Glad to see ya Ferch! How's life treating you?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Fulg0re on May 21, 2019, 03:03:19 PM
That's great news...

I love and need FBX
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on May 21, 2019, 07:22:16 PM
Just a question....
Do you think that FB logo used in splash, main and loading screens need to be changed too?

I really love the current logo, so a new one would have to be at least twice as amazing in order to change it :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: FerchogtX on May 21, 2019, 07:54:10 PM
Holy cow! Glad to see ya Ferch! How's life treating you?
Well... life has been a hard bitch, but I'm alive XD.

And you?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: samo79 on May 22, 2019, 07:59:16 PM
Congratulations guys, i like the new name !  :cool:
Wish an happy future for this emu gem
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: iq_132 on May 23, 2019, 07:50:33 AM
Well... life has been a hard bitch, but I'm alive XD.

And you?
I understand that completely! Dink & I are on IRC pretty often, I'll shoot you a pm some time with the details. I'd love to catch up!
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: 7zxkv on May 23, 2019, 09:54:54 AM
maybe this will be an opportunity to change the version number system?  0.2.97.XX is too long and does not represent anything since years ^^ amho
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on May 23, 2019, 10:02:32 AM
Yes, we really need a new version number.. I was thinking about adding a few more fields:

0.2.97.44.week#.day#.hour#

best regards,
- dink


edit: I'm kidding! :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: MarbleMad on May 23, 2019, 10:32:55 AM
New Name = New Logo ;)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on May 23, 2019, 10:41:10 AM
MarbleMad, that is nice!  did you make it?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: MarbleMad on May 23, 2019, 10:48:00 AM
MarbleMad, that is nice!  did you make it?

Just now after see information about the treachery so you are a victim ! FB must remain open source and must be reborn (hence the phoenix) despite this dirty story: Long live FBN!

Sorry for my bad english : I am in French from the 80's who did not learn English properly at school
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: barbudreadmon on May 23, 2019, 10:54:06 AM
I am in French from the 80's who did not learn English properly at school

Play all your video games in english ! I'm not kidding, it helped me a lot ;).
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: MarbleMad on May 23, 2019, 11:08:51 AM
Play all your video games in english ! I'm not kidding, it helped me a lot ;).

I already did that but on my favorites games: 1941 and dodonpatchi: it did not work :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on May 23, 2019, 11:15:35 AM
New Name = New Logo ;)

Hi MarbleMad,
very nice logo! Moreover I like much the concept of rebirth implied in the phoenix symbol... ;)

As dink already asked you: did you make it?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: MarbleMad on May 23, 2019, 11:22:02 AM
Hi MarbleMad,
very nice logo! Moreover I like much the concept of rebirth implied in the phoenix symbol... ;)

As dink already asked you: did you make it?


yes fast home photoshop creation this afternoon, possible to modify it to find for example the shape of the original F for a graphic reminder
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on May 23, 2019, 11:46:53 AM

yes fast home photoshop creation this afternoon, possible to modify it to find for example the shape of the original F for a graphic reminder

Really good! :) So (with your consent) it could be used as new logo... obviously the decision is in the DEVs hands! ;)

PS: personally I'm curious to see the logo with some alternative shades.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: MarbleMad on May 23, 2019, 11:52:31 AM
v2  :biggrin:
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on May 23, 2019, 01:39:20 PM
Personally I prefer the V1... or rather the following "mix"... ;)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Stifu on May 23, 2019, 04:55:27 PM
Good logos usually fit in a square or circle. That phoenix almost does (except for his head that sticks out a bit too much). We could have 2 variants of the logo, a big one with text (like the ones shown here), and a smaller one that would be a square / round icon only (with just the "F" inside, like the old logo).

Anyway, v2 has a better font that is reminiscent of the old logo, but v1 was cleaner / less noisy.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on May 24, 2019, 12:54:35 AM
Good logos usually fit in a square or circle. That phoenix almost does (except for his head that sticks out a bit too much). We could have 2 variants of the logo, a big one with text (like the ones shown here), and a smaller one that would be a square / round icon only (with just the "F" inside, like the old logo).

Similar to the attached one! :)

Anyway, v2 has a better font that is reminiscent of the old logo, but v1 was cleaner / less noisy.

Yes, the "F" in the V2 logo refers to the "old logo" style, but I prefer the uniformity (F and B use the same font) of V1 release.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on May 24, 2019, 01:40:15 AM
Hereunder an optional variant of FBNeo ico (just to make some test)...
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Stifu on May 24, 2019, 03:01:13 AM
Yes, the "F" in the V2 logo refers to the "old logo" style, but I prefer the uniformity (F and B use the same font) of V1 release.

We could also change the B to match the v2 F.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: KaaMoS on May 24, 2019, 06:39:47 AM
I like the V1 version with the combination of Gab75 icon.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Kev on May 24, 2019, 10:15:53 AM
To really replace the logo we need the logo, and icon, an (at a guess) 640x480px main screen, and something to go in the about box that's all better than what we already have.  Plus they would have to have the same F shape as the current one, I would assume. At one point in the distant past jan_klaassen gave me a copy of the original PSD files he used to make the current ones but I seem to have smashed that hard drive to pieces  :confused:
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: MarbleMad on May 25, 2019, 05:08:48 AM
Another modification of the logo and icon 64x64 & 32x32
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: r_hunk on July 31, 2019, 02:58:51 PM
my skin
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: iq_132 on July 31, 2019, 05:54:38 PM
my skin
I really like the colors and "FB" one this one. Not sure about the Neo part.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: r_hunk on August 01, 2019, 11:37:10 PM
I really like the colors and "FB" one this one. Not sure about the Neo part.

Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: iq_132 on August 02, 2019, 04:02:09 PM
I really like it!
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Lodan on August 03, 2019, 07:00:55 PM
I had no idea ppl were doing logos for the fbn, I posted some sketches on the github just for fun

https://github.com/finalburnneo/FBNeo/issues/87 (https://github.com/finalburnneo/FBNeo/issues/87)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: JacKc on August 10, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
My personnal logo :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on August 10, 2019, 09:10:55 AM
JacKc, that's deadly. I love it :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: JacKc on August 11, 2019, 02:14:26 PM
My logo version 2:

(https://i.imgur.com/tl5lSdw.png)

and splash :)

(https://i.imgur.com/3d46Beh.jpg)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Stifu on August 11, 2019, 02:23:43 PM
I'd move the "Neo" a bit to the right. Due to the F's long top part, the Neo looks like it's too much to the left, to me.
Just truncate the top F part to end where the bottom part does to see what I mean.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: JacKc on August 11, 2019, 05:15:59 PM
I understand what you mean. In fact NEO is in logo center...but with optical effect, it seems it is too much on the left.

let's try with this one :

(https://i.imgur.com/Qrz8i3k.png)

and splash one with our slogan :

(https://i.imgur.com/I0hOx89.jpg)

best regards,
JacKc.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Stifu on August 12, 2019, 01:52:53 PM
I like that better, but honestly, it still looks like it's too much to the left (it goes beyond the bottom left part of the F, but doesn't reach the bottom right part of the B). I'd just align it to the bottom right, but that may be just me.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on August 12, 2019, 07:06:24 PM
JacKc, I love it.  Only suggestion would be to add a little more technical-minimalism to the background (kinda like the morphing fractals in the current startup background.)

best regards,
- dink
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: JacKc on August 13, 2019, 05:52:04 PM
thank you for all these feedbacks :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: JacKc on August 16, 2019, 05:21:40 PM
Logo v4 and new splash :

(https://i.imgur.com/Ebeebv8.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/7RdRvuF.jpg)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: dink on August 16, 2019, 07:13:51 PM
JacKc, looks excellent!!!
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on August 17, 2019, 12:22:58 AM
A quick editing, just for give an alternative idea for the background...

@JacKc: excellent work with new logo! :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Fulg0re on August 17, 2019, 04:13:21 AM
I like the coloring but the shadow is
way to sharp. Maybe you should try to give
the shadow a fading blur... I can make an example
 if you want
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on August 17, 2019, 05:45:18 AM
I like the coloring but the shadow is
way to sharp. Maybe you should try to give
the shadow a fading blur... I can make an example
 if you want

If I have understood correctly, you mean a "shadow effect" similar to the following...
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: JacKc on August 17, 2019, 07:40:56 AM
Nice one Gab75 :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on August 17, 2019, 07:46:16 AM
Here another variation! :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: KaaMoS on August 18, 2019, 10:08:19 AM
Here another variation! :)
Thanks friend!
I've to say I'm not feeling so comfortable with this logo. Differences between F and B are noticeable.

I don't wanna itch you with this, but have you tried to use original "Final Burn" logo (the eldest one) and put the word "Neo" in front, or below, or even behind them?
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Gab75 on August 18, 2019, 12:19:56 PM
Thanks friend!
I've to say I'm not feeling so comfortable with this logo. Differences between F and B are noticeable.

I don't wanna itch you with this, but have you tried to use original "Final Burn" logo (the eldest one) and put the word "Neo" in front, or below, or even behind them?

You're welcome! I made a "splash-screen" for the logo created by JacKc. For the logo "design" you should ask him... :)
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: JacKc on August 18, 2019, 04:14:34 PM
Thanks friend!
I've to say I'm not feeling so comfortable with this logo. Differences between F and B are noticeable.

I don't wanna itch you with this, but have you tried to use original "Final Burn" logo (the eldest one) and put the word "Neo" in front, or below, or even behind them?

Hi KaaMos,

There is a story behind this logo... I kept the "F" which reminds the original "Final Burn" logo but also put a "B"  and the word "NEO" just under "FB" using modern fonts (which are very different) for people to show this has nothing to do with the past and the previous project.

Best regards.
Title: Re: a new name!
Post by: Fulg0re on August 21, 2019, 10:02:05 AM
Yeah that's the way... Just reduce transparency of the shadow 20 % and it's perfect

Kind regards