Author Topic: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD  (Read 1994 times)

Offline newton

  • Newbies
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Karma: +0/-0
bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« on: April 25, 2019, 01:22:31 PM »
Hello,

There is a bug on "load NEO GEO CDZ game" because when you select a game, there are a message "FB Alpha Error : Couldn't initialise CD emulation". (see the file)

and is it possible to add another directories "neogeo CDZ Games" for "Neo Geo cd (World)" and for "Neo Geo cd (Japan)" Trurip version ?

and another bug "on AdvanceMAME scale 2x" (see the file)

Thanks

Offline Gab75

  • Advanced Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 637
  • Karma: +21/-0
  • All games deserve to be emulated, more or less! :P
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2019, 01:51:41 PM »
Hi newton!

1) For a correct Neo Geo CD emulation you need to put neocdz.zip and neogeo.zip archives inside the ROMs folder.

2) You can try to install "DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)" from the official Microsoft website: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109

Offline Fulg0re

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 01:57:50 PM »
That's exactly what I did.
The latest cdz bios into the same folder as
the extracted games. Do not have any problems.

Regarding the direct x runtime.
I found a official dataset which fits perfect to
all emulators. So if somebody still have trouble
let me know.

Offline Fulg0re

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2019, 02:28:36 AM »
I don't know if this is the right place for a issue like this
Yesterday I played lots of Kof on NEO Geo AES and CDZ.
On both systems when using Chang there are two things
which were different to original games on original hardware.
When Chang is doing his final move and charging it while hitting himself with his steel ball in his face. This is too slow compared to original. Also when he is performing his throw. He will catch the opponent and pulling him over himself from side to side. This is also way to slow. No effect when boosting CPU.

Anyway... All the CDZ Versions do have so great music and thanx to great engeneering it is possible to use CD Player for playback the trax ❤️

Edit: One more thing. How do I have to set the CDZ so I do have on any game which supports blood blood? And how to save settings?
« Last Edit: May 01, 2019, 01:05:12 PM by Fulg0re »

Offline dink

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3173
  • Karma: +259/-0
  • side effects: new or worsening heart failure
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2019, 09:26:55 AM »
Fulg0re,
if you can get me 60fps video of this effect on both FBA and Neogeo (hw) " sidebyside " so I can see what is really going on, I will try my best to fix the issue.  I know it will take work to do this, but it won't be easy for me either.

best regards,
- dink

Offline Fulg0re

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 02:35:27 PM »
Hi.

Today I played art of fighting 1.
There are some weird sound failure especially on
Kings piano stage when casting a fireball.
When choosing the bonus stage where you have to chop
the bottlenecks game freeze.

Offline dink

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3173
  • Karma: +259/-0
  • side effects: new or worsening heart failure
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 07:58:03 PM »
Hi.

Today I played art of fighting 1.
There are some weird sound failure especially on
Kings piano stage when casting a fireball.
When choosing the bonus stage where you have to chop
the bottlenecks game freeze.

art of fighting I don't understand very well, Please can you give me a savestate to get to this part.  (before bugs happen)

Offline Fulg0re

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2019, 12:41:05 AM »
So you need the 2 Configfiles from the game.
I will play the game and save the file before king stage.

Offline dink

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3173
  • Karma: +259/-0
  • side effects: new or worsening heart failure
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2019, 08:40:56 AM »
So you need the 2 Configfiles from the game.
I will play the game and save the file before king stage.

Fulg0re, yes, and savestate (most importantly) :) 
Last night I tried hard to get to the places you mentioned, but I didn't have any luck.

best regards,
- dink
« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 08:42:05 AM by dink »

Offline Fulg0re

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2019, 08:53:04 AM »
Maybe it is something about overclocking  CPU?
I runn all aes games on 200% And some on 250 %

Offline dink

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3173
  • Karma: +259/-0
  • side effects: new or worsening heart failure
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2019, 09:39:22 AM »
Hmm, I duno - please try with 100% mode :)

Offline Fulg0re

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2019, 12:44:10 AM »
HI

i added the rar. Inside there are 4 Files.
Aof settings and FBA settings in 100 and 200 % CPU Mode.
If you need something more let me know.

I forgot...
It is saved on King Stage. You have to clear her until you reach 2nd Bonus Stage. Select there the bottleneck chop.

On 100% I also have the sound and freezing issue.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2019, 12:50:45 AM by Fulg0re »

Offline dink

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3173
  • Karma: +259/-0
  • side effects: new or worsening heart failure
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2019, 01:03:20 AM »
Fulg0re,
I need the savestate files, though :)
rar file only has ini files.

savestate file is .fs.  if you use F10 or gamepad button to save state, it will be under fbalpha directory/savestates, with name:
"ngcd_aof slot 01.fs"

or if you use "Game -> Save States -> Save state", save it anywhere ;)

best regards,
- dink

Offline Fulg0re

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2019, 04:46:37 AM »
Ah I see

OK. When I am at home I will create 2 files.
100 and 200 % CPU.

CYa

Offline barbudreadmon

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 435
  • Karma: +18/-1
  • Helper
Re: bug un FBA - NEO GEO CD
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2019, 06:08:06 AM »
On 100% I also have the sound and freezing issue.

It might be related so i'll share the information : a few years ago someone reported an issue with aof3 (MVS), the issue was related to overclock and it wouldn't disappear when going back to 100% without also removing the related .fs file.
My point is that overclocking once can "corrupt" eeprom files, and it won't go back to normal if you simply set normal clock again.
Imho, setting everything to 200-250% is a mistake, i think only a few games "benefit" from overclocking (mslug2, maybe twinspri ? i don't know of any other game having severe slowdowns on original hardware), and i also prefer keeping the slowdowns of the original hardware (did you ever play the DC version of twinspri without the slowdowns ? It's f***ing hard xD, i'm wondering if the slowdowns weren't there on purpose).
« Last Edit: May 08, 2019, 06:14:33 AM by barbudreadmon »